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40k 6e Space Marines: Core Dudes

Posted on by tjkopena

Games Workshop put out a new Space Marines codex last week.  Recently I started creating army lists and am posting thoughts as I go.  Previous thoughts were on Vulkan and Librarians.  Up now are the core dudes of any Kingbreakers force: Sternguard, Tacticals, and Transports.

Sternguard

Sternguard got kind of a funny set of changes.  The first five went down a point each, but any additional veterans went down three points each.  Unfortunately Combi-Weapons went up five.  That’s a little problematic for me as I’ve previously relied on a good number of Combi-Meltas.  So my 5-man Combat Squad with 3 Combi-Meltas went up 10 points while a 10-man full squad with 6 stayed the same.

Tacticals

Tacticals have a similar story going on.  Dudes got cheaper but a bunch of their stuff got more expensive.  In general it works out to be kind of a wash.  I guess the motivation was to drop equipment price lists from individual units and allow many of them to use the same armoury listings without really changing the overall unit prices from 5e, but that seems kind of a silly, unnecessary reworking.

You also need to pay to upgrade Tactical Sergeants to Veterans and get a second Attack and boosted Leadership.  Personally I think the Veteran upgrades are probably worth paying for unless the squad is really not going to wind up in combat at all.  Two base attacks plus a bonus third for wielding dual close combat weapons can be pretty decisive against a variety of opponents.  In general I’m all for a la carte upgrades—if I don’t want it, why should I implicitly pay for it?—but these might be pushing it a bit.  In particular, I think they create an opportunity for minor mistakes and abuses.  E.g., I usually upgrade my dudes but one game I don’t to shave points, and I totally forget I didn’t and roll the extra Attack and +1 Leadership all game.  Similarly, a large game could easily have ~4–8 Power Armour squads with the option.  If I only upgrade my front line, I could easily “forget” and roll on the upgrades when my Devastators wind up getting assaulted, and many opponents aren’t going to catch that in the heat of battle.

Transports

One big difference for some lists is that Razorbacks went up 15 points, to 55.  Rhinos and Drop Pods stayed at 35.  I’m not sure how reasonable this is.  Razorbacks seem to have a pretty solid built in tradeoff versus a Rhino: Carry half as many dudes, but be able to shoot stuff.  Paying 5 points for the privilege seemed reasonable, but a 38% premium seems overkill.  This seems to be aimed directly at neutering the Razorspam lists floating around in 5e, but I didn’t think they were that prevalent or overpowered, and mostly seemed to be a Blood Angels thing anyway.

Another significant difference is that Drop Pods were reduced back down to a transport capacity of ten, having been able.to carry twelve in 5e.

Kingbreakers

One of the things I had to learn in the previous edition was that cheap Special and Heavy Weapons are a strength of the Marines.  Plasmacannons for 5 points were a bargain that had to be taken advantage of; ditto free Missile Launchers.  The points changes make it feel like the weapons aren’t a good bargain anymore, at least for Sternguard and Tacticals, but the lesson probably still applies.  Similar goes for the Sternguard Combi-Meltas.  At first I thought my loadout was going to be too costly, but when you do the math a 10 man squad actually comes up 10 points cheaper.

I do usually bring a Razorback or two, but not enough of them to make that increase super punitive.

The Drop Pod transport capacity decrease is a huge deal for the Kingbreakers though.  I can’t get super worked up about it because it just brings them back in line with the other codexes.  But 10 Sternguard + Vulkan or a Terminator Librarian coming down in a Drop Pod was a keystone of my battle tactics.  The Sternguard have fairly flexible armoury options so it wouldn’t be a huge deal in terms of equipment to cut them down to a squad of 8, whereas Tacticals would miss out on a fancy weapon.  The real loss is not being able to Combat Squad that unit anymore.  I thought it useful to be able to split up coming out of a Drop Pod, either dividing up existing targets or trying to pop a transport with one and frag the occupants with the other.  Not being able to do this with one of my heroes along for the ride isn’t the end of the world, but it’s unfortunate.

40k 6e Space Marines: Librarians

Posted on by tjkopena

Games Workshop put out a new Space Marines codex last week.  Yesterday I started putting together some army lists and will be posting thoughts as I go, opening with Vulkan and continuing on now to those crazy bibliophiles: Librarians.

Psykers

To my mind, the 40k 6th edition Psyker rules in general have some strong upsides, and some very unfortunate downsides.  In general the Mastery Levels/Warp Charges scheme seems superfluous at first, but it handles a lot of different corner cases and weird tradeoffs in power and character character design elegantly, and is largely how I always hoped the system would be streamlined.  A major negative aspect though is rolling on spell lists at the start of a match to determine powers.  This kind of thing is tragically a core part of Games Workshop’s general game design philosophy and I absolutely hate the mechanism.  It’s one thing if you’re rolling to see how some Chaos power manifests for a turn.  It’s another to have a critical part of your army—namely Psychic Powers and Warlord Traits—unknown until game time, and largely out of your control.

This lack of control makes it much harder to plan an army around.  I’m sure they’d argue it forces you to play better because you need to be able to utilize whatever powers your Psyker comes up with at the start of a game, but that’s silly.  The opponent and dice will provide more than enough randomization.  If I want to concentrate on a particular power combo or build army lists around specific special abilities, I should be able to do that.

Taking that farther, the randomization mechanism doesn’t even contribute to narrative play, ostensibly one of GW’s primary focuses.  Alongside the usual Space Marine hate and wrath, my Kingbreakers’ Librarian is full of self-doubt, instability, and a strong disconnect from other people and real world consequences.  That externalizes as explosive self-destructiveness and high stakes gambling.  For me, the Vortex of Doom and its significant risks played to that—more than once has he managed to obliterate a huge fraction of my own army through risky play, just as more than once he’s swung the tide of battle in favor of the Kingbreakers with a critical hit.  Now I can’t roleplay to that characterization because much of the time he’ll roll some random, much more passive ability.

All these random lists say to me is that GW’s designers can’t be bothered to put in the effort to balance powers and traits enough such that there aren’t one or two clearly dominant choices that everyone would settle on.  It’s super lazy and a detriment to all of their games.

In any event, overall it’s fairly clear Psykers in general have gotten much more powerful due to the proliferation of crazy spells available to them, alongside somewhat of a reduction in available counter-abilities, e.g., more constrained Psychic Hoods.  However, this strength is tempered a bit by them becoming more random and more difficult to synergize with the rest of an army list.

Librarians

Those main rulebook changes along with the new codex have changed Librarians a fair bit.  Previously a default Space Marine Librarian could use one power per turn but knew two.  Under the new Master Levels and Warp Charges scheme,  default Libbies now only know one power, Master Level 1.  In addition, they’re actually no longer able to cast at least one of their previous spells: Vortex of Doom (an S10 Blast) was originally in the Space Marine codex, able to be wielded by any Librarian, but has since moved to the Telekinesis list in the main rules and become Warp Charge 2, rendering it inaccessible to a base Librarian.

Setting all that aside for a moment, in terms of raw points Space Marine Psykers got a massive discount, dropping from 100 points for a base dude in Power Armour to 65.  Terminator Armour and a Storm Shield brings them up to 100, as compared to the previous 140 points.  That’s a pretty substantial change, and I think the reduction was made to recognize that they’re not super killy or survivable in & of themselves and they’re more random now.  In general the designers are also pushing Psykers this edition so a discount’s not surprising.  Power Armour Librarians are now very reasonably priced for a lightweight supporting HQ, probably even cheap for how survivable they are and what they can do.  The Terminator variant is looking really reasonably priced.  In both cases, but especially the former, they’ve gone from enough points to maybe risk not bringing, to being basically an auto-include in every army list.

Notably, the boys in blue got an even bigger boost, with the Ultramarines’ Tigurius dropping to 165 points.  He’s Mastery Level 3; takes powers from all the lists; re-rolls his powers so there’s high odds you’ll get ~2 of the 3 you want; re-rolls Reserves as before, re-rolls failed Psychic Tests, and has an extra fancy Force Weapon that’s also Strength +2 and Master-Crafted.  The only thing he’s missing is any kind of invulnerable save.  That’s admittedly a big deal, but I still think Ultramarines players would be crazy to not take him.

Kingbreakers

For my guys I’m definitely bummed about the increased randomization but otherwise feeling pretty good about my resident master of the Warp, Librarian Rorschach.  Most recently I’d been playing him with Terminator Armor and a Storm Shield.  I’ll probably upgrade him to an Epistolary—Mastery Level 2—in order to hopefully get and be able to use Vortex of Doom as I had been, but he’ll still wind up 15 points cheaper and able to cast a second spell to boot.

40k 6th Edition Space Marines: Vulkan

Posted on by tjkopena

Games Workshop put out a new Space Marines codex last week.  Today I started putting together some army lists and will be posting thoughts as I go.  First up: Everyone’s favorite flaming hero, Vulkan He’stan.

Vulkan

Like nearly everyone, last edition I eventually caved and started running Vulkan.  He was just too good to resist—army wide Flamer and Melta buffs, with a standard Captain stat line but a 2+/3++ save, Digital Weapons, a Relic Blade, and a Heavy Flamer and Bolt Pistol to boot.  His points in the new book remain the same, a large but not crazy 190, and all of his stats and gear are also identical.  So he’s of slightly less value given that a Salamanders army gets the Flamer buff for free, and neither buffs Thunderhammers anymore.  However, I think he still stacks up pretty solidly.  I’ve generally found Vulkan to be fairly survivable and able to go toe-to-toe with tough units, so 190 points is not unreasonable for this HQ.  The one negative I’ll say about him is that his Warlord Trait (Iron Resolve: +1 to combat resolution w/ Vulkan in the fight) is terribly underwhelming.  The whole Space Marine trait list is weak across the board, and that is not one of the stronger ones.

In any event, by way of comparison, a very similar generic captain would run like so:

  • Captain: 90 points
  • Artificier Armour: 20
  • Storm Shield: 15
  • Power Weapon: 15
  • Relic Blade: 25
  • Digital Weapons: 10

There’s no option to pick up a heavy flamer on the Captain, unfortunately.  That totals 175 points, so for 15 more Vulkan’s picking up a Heavy Flamer and buffs all Melta weapons to Master-Crafted.  So, Vulkan is probably worth it if you want to run this basic setup.  I’ve found the Heavy Flamer actually fairly useful, and the Melta buff alone could easily be worth 15 points in many armies.

My other response is that’s pretty awesome and a huge improvement in the Space Marine codex.  Generic HQs in the previous book were just slightly boring in their options, and very inefficient compared to the named heroes.  They just cost too many points for how (un-)survivable a Space Marine leader is and to miss out on the army wide buffs, previously only granted by the named HQs.  So, that’s super awesome that you can now pretty much construct the named guys out of the generic options and get the bulk of the buffs from the Chapter Tactics.  That gives a ton of options.  In this case, you could basically run Vulkan but shaving a couple points with a generic guy if you don’t need the Melta buff, or you could upgrade to the Burning Blade and/or some other Chapter Relics if you wanted to beef him out to a heavier close combat fighter.  I’m super stoked about that.

Kingbreakers

So, for now at least, I’m probably going to run Vulkan and then see how I want to tailor things tighter to my playing style.  Next up: Librarians!